Next saleae?

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hi,

so whats next? i remember seeing a youtube clip with someone from your team routing a pcb. I can see the oscilloscope topics here and there.

I really like what these guys did with the dual, or rather second optional USB 3.x (Type-C) “boost” jack that basically doubles the capture-rate Compact USB Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer - SPECTRAN® V6 PLUS 250XA-6 - Aaronia AG

would be nice if there is ever a faster logic pro planned

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@janny-bb You might be referring to our EE behind the scenes video from almost 2 years ago linked below. Sorry you haven’t heard any updates from us regarding hardware stuff since then.

We don’t have any official news to share yet regarding new hardware news, but we’ll keep your feedback in mind!

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Any news you can share? It’s been almost three years since the last update. Would love to see a beefed-up USB-C Saleae.

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@koffes Just sent you an email. Let’s chat there!

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The hardware is fine. While USB-C would be a well-received update, I think there is a lot more to improve with regards to the software though. The direct competitor seems to receive most of the buzz. I prefer my saleae, but it’s a niche product.

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@mickeyl Thanks for the feedback. I’d be curious to know more about the software limitations you are running into. Maybe it’s something we can look into, or can help with. I’m also curious to know what direct competitor you are referring to. Feel free to let me know!

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I can only speak for myself.

On the hardware side, the biggest surprise I’ve had has been the sampling speed dependent analog filtering. Either make it a fixed filter (equivalent to the max speed), or a number of predefined selectable filters.
The USB-C interface would be a welcome update.

On the software side, there has been plenty of suggestions over the years. The idea of the ‘virtual channels’ (this is a wide topic) probably gets my biggest vote.
There are several similar or overlapping ideas on the ideas.saleae.com page:

  1. Virtual math channels and analog transformation functions - Logic 2 - Ideas and Feature Requests - Saleae
  2. Virtual "analog" channel based off of analyzer / HLA results - Logic 2 - Ideas and Feature Requests - Saleae
  3. Process analog channels to digital - Logic 2 - Ideas and Feature Requests - Saleae
  4. Run analyzer on an analog channel - Logic 2 - Ideas and Feature Requests - Saleae

But let’s face it. None of the ideas posted have been moved out of the “Open” state. I’m at the state that I’m not expecting anything like this to happen.

You guys make money on selling hardware, but most of the investment and value-add is on the software side. With the much higher costs of hardware since COVID, there’s going to be fewer buyers.

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On this point, see:

… as there is a work around to disable the analog filtering by tweaking the calibration file. Some known issues with this are:

  1. It is an ‘unsupported’ hack vs. built-in feature
  2. It requires command-line tools or manual text editing vs. GUI based
    (I’ve toyed around with a Tkinter GUI for this while learning python/Tkinter, but not sure anyone else would be interested in it)
  3. The synchronization between analog & digital timing might be slightly off w/o additional tweaking

But, if you want to try, see the thread linked above for details and script to hack your calibration file. Let me know if it works, or if anyone would like the Tkinter GUI, and I could put it up on GitHub for people to try it out (still a rough experimental hack right now vs. a polished program).

[Edit]
Finally, if you want to support the idea/feature request to do this all natively in Logic 2 software, please up vote this post:

It will at least register customer demand, but activity to actually work on it is depending on Saleae’s own priorities and software dev team’s ‘bandwidth’ – I’m confident that the higher priority items will (eventually) get attention, but the ‘group delay’ is larger than anticipated :winking_face_with_tongue:

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